QuickSync indexer?
QuickSync indexer?
Hey admin,
Check out this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1548287 Looks like QuickSync decoding performance blows everything out of the water, even VP5. Ever thought about making an indexer for QuickSync? Would something like that be feasible?
And Ivy Bridge is just around the corner. It should hopefully increase performance even more....
Check out this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1548287 Looks like QuickSync decoding performance blows everything out of the water, even VP5. Ever thought about making an indexer for QuickSync? Would something like that be feasible?
And Ivy Bridge is just around the corner. It should hopefully increase performance even more....
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+1 for this if it's possible
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It's certainly a possibility. I'd have to get a processor with QuickSync. Can you recommend something that will drop in as a replacement for my i7 980X? I don't want to give up CPU power if possible.
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As i've also an i7@980, i've recently take a look at the new processors. New Xeon will have 8 cores, but others "standard" high CPU seems to be locked to 6 cores, and for now, price is not worth the slight improvement you can have from new CPU (unless money is not realy an issue).
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Yeah, unfortunately they changed the CPU socket, so there are now QuickSync CPUs for socket 1366. And the performance difference compared to a 980 is going to be null basically....
Wishing Intel would give motherboards and CPU's to QuickSync developers...
Wishing Intel would give motherboards and CPU's to QuickSync developers...
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Another option would be to get a Core i3 2100 with a really cheap LGA 1155 motherboard.
A full bare bones system with QuickSync can be put together for less than $300.
A full bare bones system with QuickSync can be put together for less than $300.
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Currently that would probably be 3960X (Sandy-bridge based), it's a little faster than 980X and it's still faster that current ivy-bridge CPU's (3770k), but if you wait a little longer a Ivy-bridge in the X series will surely come out which surpasses 3960X and 980X in performance...neuron2 wrote:It's certainly a possibility. I'd have to get a processor with QuickSync. Can you recommend something that will drop in as a replacement for my i7 980X? I don't want to give up CPU power if possible.
Atleast when looking at x264 benchmarks from http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/142?vs=443
Edit: quicksync benchmarks for ivy-bridge: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy- ... 7-3770k/17
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If you want a CPU that has QuickSync and don't want to lose CPU power or even gain power you need to take the Intel i7 3770K.
And if this one is a little bit slower then your i7 980 you can overclock it very easy because the multiplier is unlocked
And if this one is a little bit slower then your i7 980 you can overclock it very easy because the multiplier is unlocked
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Did this ever get any further? Do you think that Intel Quick Sync could be useful and offer high decoding speeds and high quality de-interlacing?neuron2 wrote:It's certainly a possibility. I'd have to get a processor with QuickSync. Can you recommend something that will drop in as a replacement for my i7 980X? I don't want to give up CPU power if possible.
It would be interesting seeing how quickly Intel QuickSync can decode H.264 video. Does anyone know what frames rates are possible? The de-interlace quality is also something I would like to see.
Yeah, come on Intel, Donald has considered writing an application to take advantage of Intel graphics and the only thing standing in the way is the hardware to do it. A motherboard and CPU is a small price to get a respected developer such as Donald Graft on board. Just look at the people who buy nVidia GPU's rather than AMD GPU's in order to use DG's software. I changed an ATI/AMD GPU that I had only recently purchased for a nVidia GPU in order to use DG's software.JoeH wrote:Yeah, unfortunately they changed the CPU socket, so there are now QuickSync CPUs for socket 1366. And the performance difference compared to a 980 is going to be null basically....
Wishing Intel would give motherboards and CPU's to QuickSync developers...
A GPU for me only displays a picture and assists with decoding, I have no other use for it than that. Integrated graphics would be adequate for me if it did what I needed. I have just completed a system rebuild from a Core 2 Quad to a i7-3770K but ATM I am still using a nVidia GPU in order to use DG's software. If things changed, I might be willing to ditch the nVidia card and use integrated graphics. With the Intel Virtu graphics thingy, both can be used as required, providing the monitor has two inputs.
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+1
Definitely would love to see Intel work with Donald Graft on this.
My desktop has a really old Nvidia card. I bought it off a friend who wanted to buy a new laptop.
So now I finally have Nvidia HW decoding. But not without its compromises. The desktop is a single-core processor.
It's really outdated but runs fine.
I can now convert my blu-ray movies to dvd in a 10 hour span. 6-8 hours for video conversion, the rest is spent on demuxing, indexing, dealing with audio, etc.
That's a lot better than the 24 hour process I used to have for the desktop.
My laptop is an HP Pavilion G6 series with Intel HD Graphics.
I can use the Intel QuickSynch technology through Lav filters or FFDshow. I prefer Lav filters.
An indexer would be awesome.
I would feel a lot safer doing anything with an indexer.
For my HP Intel laptop, I use mostly ffms2. Which does well.
I'm too skeptical of any sort of DSS/DSS2 import for anything I do.
Granted, most of my work is very linear. I don't do anything that requires the editing to jump to various points in the video.
It goes straight from beginning to end.
Definitely would love to see Intel work with Donald Graft on this.
My desktop has a really old Nvidia card. I bought it off a friend who wanted to buy a new laptop.
So now I finally have Nvidia HW decoding. But not without its compromises. The desktop is a single-core processor.
It's really outdated but runs fine.
I can now convert my blu-ray movies to dvd in a 10 hour span. 6-8 hours for video conversion, the rest is spent on demuxing, indexing, dealing with audio, etc.
That's a lot better than the 24 hour process I used to have for the desktop.
My laptop is an HP Pavilion G6 series with Intel HD Graphics.
I can use the Intel QuickSynch technology through Lav filters or FFDshow. I prefer Lav filters.
An indexer would be awesome.
I would feel a lot safer doing anything with an indexer.
For my HP Intel laptop, I use mostly ffms2. Which does well.
I'm too skeptical of any sort of DSS/DSS2 import for anything I do.
Granted, most of my work is very linear. I don't do anything that requires the editing to jump to various points in the video.
It goes straight from beginning to end.
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Count me in. I just rebuilt my main PC with new components and went from AMD to nVIDIA. HUGE performance boost to my encoding as I do a LOT to put my media on my streaming server so I don't have to constantly change DVDs.
Went from an Intel i7 920 (LGA1366) to an i7 4770K (LGA1150). New MB is a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-HD3 with Intel 4600 on-board video and 16GB RAM. I added an EVGA GeForce GTX 650. Don't have actual numbers, but 1st pass went from ~90 fps to ~140+ fps and 2nd pass from ~17 fps to above 30 fps consistently and seen it as high as 40 fps.
If QuickSync is that much faster from what I'm reading, then it would be great to see an indexer for it too.
Went from an Intel i7 920 (LGA1366) to an i7 4770K (LGA1150). New MB is a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-HD3 with Intel 4600 on-board video and 16GB RAM. I added an EVGA GeForce GTX 650. Don't have actual numbers, but 1st pass went from ~90 fps to ~140+ fps and 2nd pass from ~17 fps to above 30 fps consistently and seen it as high as 40 fps.
If QuickSync is that much faster from what I'm reading, then it would be great to see an indexer for it too.
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The newest Nvidia VP6 is comparable to QuickSync for basic decoding and is much faster for deinterlacing.
There is a QuickSync version of DG tools but the indexer is CLI only. Look on my main software page (Mine) for the QuickSYnc version.
There is a QuickSync version of DG tools but the indexer is CLI only. Look on my main software page (Mine) for the QuickSYnc version.
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Sweet! I'll take a look. I have some encoding going this morning and I took a peak and it happened to be doing pass 1 and it was at ~192 fps. Insane. Thank you.
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Thanks for the report. I'm glad you find it useful.
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I had a chance to play with this just now and noticed the file inside the DGI file is not fully qualified, i.e.,
I did a comparison between files created with NV and IM and they're identical so no issues. Will see what the encoder logs show between the two after the encoding is done. I'm using the automatic setting right now (engine=0).
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video1.mkv 14183246537
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If you want full paths, then change to this in your dgindexim.ini file:
Full_Path_In_Files=1
Full_Path_In_Files=1
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Cool, thanks. Are the INI entries pretty much the same as DGDecNV?neuron2 wrote:If you want full paths, then change to this in your dgindexim.ini file:
Full_Path_In_Files=1
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Yes, but the CUDA-related ones are ignored.
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Yep, thanks. So, just for fun, here's what I saw today. Encoding a full HD source (AVC) to MPEG2 DVD via HCEnc 026.neuron2 wrote:Yes, but the CUDA-related ones are ignored.
DGDecNV 1st pass:
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pass 1 encoding time: 0:14:01 (840.97 s)
fps: 128.6
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pass 1 encoding time: 0:17:55 (1075.25 s)
fps: 100.6
DGDecNV 2nd pass:
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pass 2 encoding time: 0:10:32 (631.57 s)
fps: 171.3
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pass 2 encoding time: 0:10:38 (638.43 s)
fps: 169.4
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