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Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:29 pm
by Guest
What is the general consensus? Avisynth64 or Avisynth+ for a 64 bit environment

Re: Which one to use with DGTools

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:02 pm
by admin
I like Avisynth+ as it is actively maintained and developed. And pinterf works very hard for the video community and deserves our support.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:05 pm
by Guest
Thank you

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:34 am
by admin
It can be a bit tricky to install up to the latest version. You have to install the most recent installer version and then copy over the latest files (the latest release does not have an installer). Also, you have to make sure you have the required VS 2015 runtimes installed. Start with this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0a55fixmvagr ... 94.7z?dl=0

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:18 pm
by Guest
Once more, thank you for your help and thanks for your patience

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:13 am
by jpsdr
I would say exactly the same thing. Avisynth64 begin to be old and still have issues that has been fixed within avs+.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:49 am
by Guest
I agree, after doing some more reading.
When I have some time, I'll set it up

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:43 pm
by Guest
Follow up
I am now running in a mainly x64 environment. Just one or two items update.
Thanks to those who helped me along I am now writing my own scripts (simple ones) and using them as a source
:hat:

PS
While doing some reading in the avs+ thread I noticed some of the guys there are more obnoxious than ever

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:05 pm
by admin
Well done, gonca!

I always puke in my mouth a little when I have to run some 32-bit stuff.
While doing some reading in the avs+ thread I noticed some of the guys there are more obnoxious than ever
Remember, always take the high road. Let them out themselves as jerks and immature a-holes. They think they are scoring points but they only expose themselves for what they are. Anyone that would lift themselves up by disrespecting and lowering others is a sad and pitiable one. Their flying monkeys are equally repugnant.

Onward and upward!

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:30 pm
by Guest
My change over to x64 is now complete.
Might have to go back to 32 bit on the odd occasion, but such is life

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:35 pm
by admin
Do you have QTGMC working in all 64-bit?

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:53 pm
by Guest
I haven't tried QTGMC yet.
I have been using some new filters instead. They do a darn good job overall.
You might have heard of them, names start with DG and end with NV.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:00 pm
by admin
Glad you like the new stuff. Don't be shy to suggest things.

I have a motion compensation solution running at 25 fps. It's RGB32 for now but conversion to YV12 should be a doddle. Famous last words, eh?

I abandoned the edge-based approach again. :roll:

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:47 pm
by Guest
should be a doddle. Famous last words, eh?
Done that a few times myself.
I've downloaded QTGMC and its core plugins.
Tomorrow, if I have time - its tax time up here, I'll try them out.

One thing i read, a user having problems running it solved it by renaming mvtools2.dll to mvtools.dll

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:21 pm
by Guest
No joy getting 32 bit plugin running in a 64 bit environment, so QTGMC is a no go.
I do have some 32 bit apps (1or 2) that I might still use on occasion and they don't like avisynth+ 32bit.
So, I replaced the avisynth+ dll is syswow64 with the one from 2.60. All is good, I hope.

<RANT> why does MS insist on putting 32 bit stuff in a folder with 64 on it, and 64 bit stuff in a folder with 32 in the name, why not use system32 for 32 bit and system64 for 64 bit<RANT>
I need a drink

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:30 pm
by admin
There shouldn't be any problem with Avs+ 32 that would make you need to go to 2.60. Maybe you are missing a 32-bit runtime. Can you give details of the error? Also, run AVSMeter32 with -avsinfo and it should report any missing runtimes.

I can run QTGMC just fine on Win10 64.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:42 pm
by Guest
Its not a problem with avisynth+ 32 bit
These apps check for avisynth version on launch, and so they refuse to actually launch.
I didn't mean run a 32 bit plugin on win 64 bit. Because of the CUDA Tools I learned some basic scripting and I use my settings for x264 to run my encodes with 64 bit apps.
That's how good your CUDA Tools are, not only do they do the job well but they got me to learn how to do avisynth scripting.
No biggie, if I encouter a situation where I need QTGMC I can run it with 32 bit avisynth

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:57 pm
by admin
OK, I see.

I have both VirtualDub 32 and VirtualDub 64 installed. When I want to preview QTGMC stuff, then I just drop the script on Virtualdub 32. Of course, everything in the script must be 32-bit. I just use QTGMC as my gold standard for bobbing. For me, it's too slow to use in practice.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:23 pm
by Guest
Actually, I can make my situation work well enough.
If I need an app that wants AviSynth 2.60, I drop in the old dll.
If I want to use Avisynth+ I just put in the new dll
I didn't have to change the DeviL.dll file.
But for now I am just trying to get the hang of the 64 bit chain, and adding 64 bit plugins as I encounter a need

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:47 pm
by admin
What apps "want" 2.60 and can't use avs+?

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:40 pm
by Guest
BD_RB and possibly AVStoDVD (haven't tested this one yet)
Haven't used AVStoDVD so I might just remove it
BD_RB has some features that I can use for my series discs

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:47 pm
by admin
They can all use Avs+. You just have to know how to set it up.

Dropping DLL's in system directories is a pain in the ass that should be avoided.

IMHO. :P

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:51 pm
by Guest
They can all use Avs+. You just have to know how to set it up.
Could you please give me a hint

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:05 pm
by admin
Tomorrow. I'm watching telly now. Then off to bed.

Re: Which Avisynth to use with DGTools

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm
by Guest
:agree:
Sounds like a plan