[RESOLVED] DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Well. May be you are right regarding decoder misconfiguration. The matter is that trial version has no configuration tool at all. :) Only file diavc.ax. I know this is not your area. It's just my think aloud.

BTW. May be you will be interested. I've asked regarding my problem in DiAVC thread elsewhere.

I do not know really if this reply correct or not. But until now there are no others.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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As I said, do not attempt to MT the DGSource() filter. Use DiAVC's integral multithreading.

DGSource() code itself is thread-safe. It's the combination with DiAVC that causes the issue, I believe.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Ok. I think I understand you.

Can you propose some test case regarding stable multi-threading with DGSource+DiAVC? I mean some avisynth script. Because you've told that in your computer everything works fine.
I know that DiAVC is multithreaded and I see it using multiple threads on my PC.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Just use DGSource() and enable multithreading in the DiAVC configuration.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I don't understand how it could be reached within Avisynth (and with trial version of DiAVC)?

Do you mean something like that?

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DGSource("my_file.dgi")

super = MSuper(pel=2, sharp=2)
backward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=2, overlap=4)
backward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, overlap=4)
MDegrain2(super, backward_vec1,forward_vec1,backward_vec2,forward_vec2,thSAD=400)
or may be something like following?

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DGSource("my_file.dgi")

SetMTMode(2)

super = MSuper(pel=2, sharp=2)
backward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=2, overlap=4)
backward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, overlap=4)
MDegrain2(super, backward_vec1,forward_vec1,backward_vec2,forward_vec2,thSAD=400)
Which one example is correct for using multithreading in Avisynth? Please specify.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I've found some code that makes DGSource() not thread-safe, and therefore not compatible with MT. I have corrected it and slipstreamed it into build 2025. So redownload build 2025 and update DGAVCDecodeDI.dll. Please test it and report your results.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Thank you. I've downloaded last version. And what I have.

This code works properly but only with 1 thread (please pay your attention on comments within script).

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DGSource("my_file.dgi")

SetMTMode(2)
# or SetMTMode(2,0) or SetMTMode(2,3) or SetMTMode(2,4)

super = MSuper(pel=2, sharp=2)
backward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=2, overlap=4)
backward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, overlap=4)
MDegrain2(super, backward_vec1,forward_vec1,backward_vec2,forward_vec2,thSAD=400)
Following code crashes all time when I am using x264 coder.

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SetMTMode(5)
# or SetMTMode(5,0) or SetMTMode(5,2) or SetMTMode(5,3) or SetMTMode(5,4)

DGSource("my_file.dgi")

SetMTMode(2)

super = MSuper(pel=2, sharp=2)
backward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=2, overlap=4)
backward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, overlap=4)
MDegrain2(super, backward_vec1,forward_vec1,backward_vec2,forward_vec2,thSAD=400)
Following code crashes all time when I am using x264 coder. And it only works once with VirtualDub(I was unable to repeat this result later).

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SetMTMode(5,4)

DGSource("my_file.dgi")

SetMTMode(2,4)

super = MSuper(pel=2, sharp=2)
backward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=2, overlap=4)
backward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=true, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec1 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, overlap=4)
forward_vec2 = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, overlap=4)
MDegrain2(super, backward_vec1,forward_vec1,backward_vec2,forward_vec2,thSAD=400)
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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That's all I can do for you on this issue. Use your first script.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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This is certainly not what I expected. DSS2() can work stable with multi-threading in all these scripts. But... That's something at least.
Thanks.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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You need to ask DiAVC about it. I have confirmed that DGSource() itself is threadsafe. I can open a script several times in simultaneous VirtualDub instances and they play fine and independently.

Beyond that, it's your problem to get MT working. I know nothing about it, and more precisely, I don't care at all about it. And what are you after anyway? The source filter is already multithreaded and the remainder of your script is running fine under MT. What are you trying to achieve by MT'ing the souce filter?

You are free to use DSS2() if that works better for you. :)
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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admin wrote:You need to ask DiAVC about it. I have confirmed that DGSource() itself is threadsafe. I can open a script several times in simultaneous VirtualDub instances and they play fine and independently.
As far as I know possibility to run several applications simultaneously is not equal to multi-threading. Threadsafe means that you can run several threads within one application process in operating system. It is because every process runs in its own memory area which is isolated from other processes. But threads run in shared memory area which one process owns.
admin wrote:Beyond that, it's your problem to get MT working. I know nothing about it, and more precisely, I don't care at all about it.
Yes, you told me already about it. It is a pity (for me of course).
admin wrote:And what are you after anyway? The source filter is already multithreaded and the remainder of your script is running fine under MT. What are you trying to achieve by MT'ing the souce filter?
I am trying to use all cores of my CPU. I don't know exactly how it works with DSS2() but it works smoothly on all cores and when I am not MT'ing before this filter it works on one core only. The same situation with your plug-in - it can works on one core only when I am not turning on MT before it.

May be MT spawns several threads when filter loads the video. And consequent filters runs within these threads.
admin wrote:You are free to use DSS2() if that works better for you. :)
I know, I know... But DiAVC decoder is better than it analogues. So I tried to use it.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I know, I know... But DiAVC decoder is better than it analogues. So I tried to use it.
What makes you think that DSS2() cannot use the DiAVC decoder?

One more time: DiAVC runs multithreaded distributed on all your CPUs. There is no need to try to instantiate DGSource() multiple times. If you cannot get DiAVC to use all your cores, then again, talk to DiAVC about it!
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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admin wrote:
I know, I know... But DiAVC decoder is better than it analogues. So I tried to use it.
What makes you think that DSS2() cannot use the DiAVC decoder?
At present I not quite understand how to make it work with DiAVC.
admin wrote:One more time: DiAVC runs multithreaded distributed on all your CPUs. There is no need to try to instantiate DGSource() multiple times. If you cannot get DiAVC to use all your cores, then again, talk to DiAVC about it!

On forum.doom9.org I've got reply regarding this. There is no need to perform special action to force decoder for using multithreading.

And I've notice that when I run following script within VirtualDub all my cores were used. But that happened only one time and only within VirtualDub

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SetMTmode(5,4)
DGSource()
SetMTMode(2,4)
May be MT spawns several threads when filter is loading the video. And consequent filters run within these threads. I think this explanation is reasonable. Every filter (including DGSource) runs in its own thread which has been spawned by MT.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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What version of Avisynth are you running? Also, what version of MT.dll?

If you give me enough information I will try to duplicate the issue.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I have usual Avisynth (last 32-bit version from SourceForge) and MT-libraries from SEt version 2009.07.12. I've got Avisynth MT here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1301410

There are my Avisynth files

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b4g40cf ... isynth.zip

MD5: 869C8001ACF985372DC9E0F7A8328745
Size: 2'200'278
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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Not quite. Firstly you need to install usual Avisynth and after that you should copy dll-s from SEt distributive over dll-s from official Avisynth.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I asked which one you are *running*.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I installed Avisynth MT and MT.dll. I ran this script:

loadplugin("dgavcdecodedi.dll")
dgsource("X:\RATATOUILLE\BDMV\STREAM\00027.dgi")

and this one:

loadplugin("f:\don\Programming\C++\DiAVC\DGAVCDecodeDI\x32\Release\dgavcdecodedi.dll")
dgsource("X:\RATATOUILLE\BDMV\STREAM\00027.dgi")
SetMTMode(2,0)
tweak(sat=0.0)

They both ran fine and both gave a utilization graph like this:

Image

So, the first script shows that the decoder is using all the cores. The second shows that you can MT additional functions after the DGSource() call.

You *do not need* to MT DGSource(). DiAVC takes care of threading for the source filter. But just for fun, I added SetMTMode(5,0) before DGSource(). It still worked but
was slower than without it.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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When I run my script (DiAVCDecode), It crashes all time

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SetMTMode(5,4)
DGSource()
SetMTMode(2,4)
MVTools processing part ...


If I am running following script (DiAVCDecode), it works but with one thread only. It is because only 1 thread actually load video source as I wrote early.

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DGSource()
SetMTMode(2,4)
MVTools processing part ...
If I am running this script (DSS2), it also works with one thread only.

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DSS2()
SetMTMode(2,4)
MVTools processing part ...
But if I am running script listed below (DSS2), it runs on all my cores with 4 threads. And all cores utilization is 100% (not just 5 or 10 like your screenshot shows). x264 FPS processing speed is also much higher (15 or 16 FPS instead of 4-5 with 1 thread only).

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SetMTMode(5,4)
DSS2()
SetMTMode(2,4)
MVTools processing part ...
You show me on your screenshot all cores with 1-thread-only-loading. I see it because utilization of your cores is just 5-10 percent. OS just distribute in your case load from 1 thread to all your cores. But it is NOT multi-threading.

As I think decoder will not spawns additional threads automatically. You should tell him so explicitly. And it is can be done with SetMTMode calling BEFORE using DGDecode.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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My CPU utilization is low because I was not transcoding but only decoding and playing the script in VirtualDub.

You are a self-confessed amateur yet here you are lecturing me on threading.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I am not lecturing you. I'm just voicing my thoughts aloud. Also I clearly see the difference of CPU utilization between DGSource and DSS2 in my script. You can easily check that I am right. Just use Microsoft Process Explorer tool. It can show how many threads actually in use within one application process and what the nature of these threads.

I am amateur in video standards. It is true. But I am not amateur in system administration - in this area I am professional. And I know difference between multi-processing, multi-threading and multi-coring. I'm sorry if my knowledge in this area hurt you.

Please show me example of video processing script for Avisynth, when CPU utilization with DGSource will be equal to 100%. Because until now I can't understand how to reach it with DGSource. However I can easily do it with DSS2. All my scripts have been given already to you.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I do not get crashing when I put SetMTMode(5,0) before DGSource(). If you do, perhaps you should remove all that MV tools stuff and see if it still crashes. If so, then please use your awesome system administration skills to provide me with a Dr. Watson dump of the crash.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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There is a dump.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b4g7c95/n/x264.zip
MD5: 5B24798EFD065F78523CA09F45308FD4
Size: 19'002'233

Avisynth script:

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SetMemoryMax(2000)
SetMTmode(5,0)
LoadPlugin("D:\arh\media\edit\video\_Filters\DGAVCDecDI\2025_20110106\DGAVCDecodeDI.dll")
DGSource("g:\video1.dgi")
return last
I've removed any dll-s from Avisynth plugins folder except for following:

DirectShowSource
MT
TCPDeliver
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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What is x264.DMP and how do I view it?

DrWatson logs are *.wlg.
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Re: DGAvcDecDI crashes when playing mkv-file

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I've made this dump with Windows Task Manager. It can can be viewed with Windows debugger which comes with Windows SDK 7.
As far as I know there is no Dr.Watson debugger in Windows 7. But maybe I am wrong and you can tell me how I can run it in Windows 7.

Also I have diagnostic message from OS. I don't know if it could help... It looks like following

Event name: APPCRASH
Application name: x264.exe
Application version: 0.0.0.0
Application timestamp: 4d08623f
Module name: DGAVCDecodeDI.dll
Module version: 0.0.0.2025
Module timestamp: 4d2542b7
Exception code: c0000005
Exception offset: 000057c5
OS version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Language code: 1049
Additional info 1: 0a9e
Additional info 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional info 3: 0a9e
Additional info 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
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