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Got the stream, thank you. I know what's going on but I'm in the middle of a kitchen tile project (hard to stop in midstream). Ever start a project and wish you hadn't?

The index entries are sorted by POC per GOP (to get display order in the DGI file), but it seems that it is not implementing the GOP boundaries correctly in this case, so the negative POC values in later GOPs migrate to the first GOP.

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You got a new house?

Actually, have an older one and the kitchen was from the early 70s. You can imagine. Homely country look with goofy masonite wainscoting and rose-adorned wallpaper -- projectile vomit -- people used to like this stuff?! So I gutted it to the bare walls and plywood subfloor. Thomasville cabinets (functional not foo-foo) (Made in USA) and quartz countertop are in. Backsplash subway tiling in progress. Saving thousands doing it myself but didn't plan on massive hand cramps. Final result is gonna be sweet!

I'll try to find time to look at your issue tomorrow.

SPOILER: My avatar now faces the other way (toward the post instead of away). It feels more welcoming and inclusive.

Found and fixed the bug! Slipstream coming later today. Gotta lay some tile first.

Should be working in slipstream 203. Please advise if OK and I can mark this resolved.

Real good find there, MeteorRain. Thank you.

Wow that's a lot of work. Didn't notice your avatar change though (looks pretty much the same so...)

Good to know the bug is fixed. I'm gonna test it against my other samples to make sure it's working perfect. (Hint: there was some seeking accuracy problem I noticed, so I'll double check.) Will let you know!

Thanks!

The bug would definitely cause seeking issues, so hopefully those should be fixed too.

Definitely negative POC shifting problem is solved.

Seeking inaccuracy still presents. I have uploaded a minimized sample to your FTP "259test4.hevc", please check frame 24, sequential and random access.

OK, will do. I saw that file up there and wondered if it was you.

It's working fine for me. What are you seeing?

Random access to 23 and move forward to 24 I'm seeing the end of the program.

Random access to 24 and I'm seeing the next program.

(I recall there's a tool that can play avs forward and backward and check seeking accuracy but I don't remember where it is.)

Using VirtualDub2 64-bit, AviSynth+, DG 2053SS203.

OK, I see it now. Investigating...

Hmm, it's those pesky negative POCs again. I have a fix working locally but have to do a lot of functional and regression testing.

Any reason keeping them as-is? Like, what if we just shift it to above zero? Just my 0.02 guess though.

It's not the negativity; it's the fact that the leading RADLs are B frames, and leading B frame code hasn't been implemented for HEVC hithertoo. This is actually the first HEVC stream seen here that has leading B frames. I knew the day must come, so now it's time to take care of business.

I see.

Well, this is the part I don't understand well. They used to be very conservative on broadcasting (Hint: mpeg2 interlaced 1440x1080 SAR 2ch aac) but all in a sudden they are going to the moon (hevc 10bit 4k / 8k with open-gop rasl+radl and 22.2 channel latm aac audio).

22 channel? That's insane.

BTW, just to help with your already excellent English, we say "all of a sudden".

We say, she say, speak for yourself. Who is broadcaster? We can blow up studio. Animals will not be harmed.

I'm so confused. Help me.

Thanks for the correction.

By the way, they used 22.2 channels so it's 24 in total I don't even think there's any OSS decoder yet.

Sherman, poor baby, come to me, I will help you.

Sherman, you are a beloved child of the divine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaflX0MWRo (released version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma09CIqapwk (extended version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqJ44IpAJ0 (happy version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqFz7T5v3iU (with lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3eSxlgOhY (Motown remix)

Highest genius of the human spirit. RIP Levi Stubbs.

"When the world falls apart, some things stay in place
Levi Stubbs' tears run down his face."

-Billy Bragg

Thank you, Bullwinkle. But are emotions irrational? Should we suppress them? Is it an evolutionary mistake? How do emotions know what is right?

Sherman, emotions are beautiful manifestations of the divine spirit that set us apart from microbes. Embrace the divine, and sing your joy!

Thanks, Bullwinkle! Think I got it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhtzMwA5gJI